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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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we are live once again here on truth

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seekers where we

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investigate some of the strangest

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stories

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on planet earth and tonight of course

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uh yeah

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it would appear that we

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are live i'm just checking in with the

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just checking in with the streams

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friends bear with me

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seems like uh our guest has not gotten

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one second email view the link

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all right friends just bear with me one

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moment let me get him a brand new link

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all right we'll try this again

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this one should work now that we

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are live let me get over to my email and

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send that to

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him an email as well yeah sorry friends

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these are things that happen with the

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live show sometimes i meant to get here

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a little early and get him in

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uh in the room but uh i haven't had much

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let's see so uh our guest tonight is

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daniel hogan and he's got the links

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we're gonna see if he can't

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get in here so tonight we're going to be

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talking about these

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evp is basically uh

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ghostly voices right that are recorded

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after an investigation uh evp stands for

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electronic voice phenomenon

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and uh it's pretty common practice with

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it within the ghost hunting community

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the uh you know parapsychology

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all of this and uh but i agreed that i

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raw files and with the direction

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of the person who recorded them see if

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we could find some anomalies and then

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and try to identify those

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zero background

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in electronic voice phenomenon zero

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and we're still uh still looking to

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so uh yeah i took these raw files from

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daniel hogan who recorded them at a

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church and a

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where they were recorded other than

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listening to some of the i suppose what

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sessions and in these sessions someone

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let me know in twitter dms i see you

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attention to the live chat we have some

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shout outs we see

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uh i don't know say something dan hogan

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dan hogan do you can you hear me

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audio uh hold on one second though let

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daniel hogan how you guys doing good to

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see you my friend

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you too thanks for having me yeah this

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i apologize dan i told you you know how

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busy i've been i had all these other

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shows sort of way in front of it but dan

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work on them and i know very little

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where they were recorded

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a prison but can you tell us now that i

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have done with these files can you tell

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us more about the locations

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widely considered one of the more

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haunted places in the united states i

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good target for evp sessions yeah right

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absolutely um the other location the

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they call it a pioneer village and what

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gettysburg they brought together a bunch

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church from i believe like the late

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awesome so there's a lot of a lot of

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history there there is yeah i mean

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uh just just to keep everybody informed

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but then dan said i think there's an

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anomaly at this

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time stamp at this time stamp so i went

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i found something pretty crazy in each

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of those spots where he was mentioned

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he believes there's anomalies and and

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of the voices so what i did is i took

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the clips where we hear the voices right

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and then i honestly i did very little i

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process the hell out of it i just

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normalized it which means to make it as

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loud as it could be without

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over being overdriven and then i applied

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the voice much better when i pulled

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higher frequencies in yeah and so uh

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maybe you can talk about each one of

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them and what was going on or what

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prompted the response maybe

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we can do that so just i guess just kind

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of all the clips i was going back

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isolated so then it's like i didn't hear

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the background noise so i couldn't

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know just by you know the the small clip

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where it was at but

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the clip number one um is kind of a

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strange one for me it was actually i

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when i

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emailed you i told you that there was a

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piece of audio that was only like two

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seconds long that was on my recorder

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i i mean when i turn my recorder on i

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let it run for anywhere from 15 minutes

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to

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what i can pick up

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and this particular file on the recorder

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is like two seconds long

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i don't know how it got there i you know

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there's really there's not enough

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there's not enough in there to i guess

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identify where it could have been

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but i mean just in that two second clip

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uh

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i mean that's how you captured clip

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number one and like i said i don't

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i don't turn it on and off just like

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that so for that to be on the recorder

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you know i i thought was i thought was

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kind of strange that's why that was the

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reason why i sent

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yeah i've been doing some reading about

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this evp stuff and some evp

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session people or believers in evp think

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that they can literally

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put their voice on the tape even when

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you're not aware

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you know what i mean like they can

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somehow manipulate the recorder

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and sometimes there'll be an evp at the

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end or the beginning of a recording that

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the person remembers they stop that at

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38 and then

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they'll it'll go back on and they'll get

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one

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clip and they'll be some sort of epp in

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that

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additional clip well

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that's the hardest thing about this

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whole process is i mean you know

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you you kind of have to go back through

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and i mean i listened to some of these

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clips

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30 40 times just trying to fill you know

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just trying to make sure that okay

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there's not a voice in the background

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that i didn't

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you know that i can identify or it was

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just something crazy that would happen

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going back in my head thinking about you

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know where i was at and what exactly was

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going on

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but i mean some of these can be easily

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debunked you know just there's

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maybe but some of these found some of

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them sound

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a little

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strange and otherworldly like demons

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talking or something that was kind of

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what i thought

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when i heard when i heard clip number

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three and number four

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they seemed uh that was kind of my first

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thought was like wow that's a

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that's a little different than like the

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norm but i mean i guess you can play

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them and we'll let people uh

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you know yeah and you know what we'll

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stop it we'll stop after each and do

361
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like a uh we'll stop after each and then

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do like uh

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you know you can tell us a little more

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about it one second let me get

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let me get this queued up and this is

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the first time i'm doing this friends

367
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honestly

368
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i was not sure how to present this at

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all

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so uh you know i just kind of threw

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together uh

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this additional video that i put up

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earlier today because i wanted people to

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get a chance to listen to it before we

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talked about it

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and see what they thought and then you

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know see what they thought

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after we talked about this but here

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let's uh

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make sure i share audio for sure and i

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just titled this clips from our first

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investigation into evps which is really

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just

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all source material that dan provided me

385
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so

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the investigating that i did was to go

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through the audio and try to isolate

388
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the anomalies so that they could be

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presented in a row

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[Music]

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sure volume is all the way up yeah

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and here we're going to hear the first

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and i played each clip five times so

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after

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yeah so i'm gonna stop it there and so

396
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can you tell us about that one or i

397
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should

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full screen just one second there you go

399
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so the first clip like we were just

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talking about a minute ago that was sort

401
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of the

402
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the random you know two second clip that

403
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i had on the recorder

404
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uh that i just happened to be you know i

405
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was going through the stuff from first

406
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that's crazier now because it's telling

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you don't come back

408
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well you know it's funny because like

409
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you were saying you try not to like you

410
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didn't want to get too

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too much information up front because

412
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you didn't want to sort of you didn't

413
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want your mind to sort of take you

414
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you know like if i say i think it sounds

415
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like this and you're like and you listen

416
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you're like yeah

417
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that kind of sounds like that but you

418
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got a chance to just listen to it

419
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now yeah dan didn't tell me what he

420
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thought each clip was saying and i'm not

421
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sure how close i came to the ones that

422
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you found or what you thought

423
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but what i did is i uh listened to these

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with the

425
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i did do filtering listening to them uh

426
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with like a you know noise filter and

427
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these big

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old studio headphones that i have and

429
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really listened intently because

430
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you know i put a text here of what i

431
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think each of them is saying and i am

432
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fairly sure having listened to these

433
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over and over you know 50 times

434
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is it saying don't come back or could it

435
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be saying something else

436
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and in each of these cases i was really

437
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sure that i was

438
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correct in what i believe the voice is

439
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saying

440
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so when when i listen to it again

441
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on your you know with you with what you

442
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:39,760
put together and i went through it about

443
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i don't know six or seven times just

444
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rehearing and rehearing it

445
00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:45,039
it almost it almost to me doesn't quite

446
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sound like don't come back

447
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it almost sounds like it says must go

448
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back or must come back and then it just

449
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draws out that

450
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that back is just very like drawn at the

451
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end

452
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um so i mean i think we're getting two

453
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:00,880
out of three that's not too bad

454
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no i mean when i like when i listen to

455
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it i can

456
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:06,559
like i hear don't come back but i guess

457
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:07,840
the more i heard it

458
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:09,760
i think maybe maybe my brain changed it

459
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,960
around or maybe i just

460
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:13,280
after hearing it it sounded like must

461
00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:15,200
come back or it just

462
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:16,960
it was i mean i think we're in the same

463
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:18,720
ballpark it was something along those

464
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lines at least from what i can tell

465
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so all right and we're going to take a

466
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listen to the second one

467
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and again i played each of them five

468
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there

469
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:16,470
wow

470
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:19,990
okay so there's the what once

471
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:22,159
we end there okay and then we'll do the

472
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:23,520
next one so

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he is a good god and i have to mention

474
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if for the benefit of those if you wear

475
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:30,799
headphones

476
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:32,880
with this one in particular it seemed

477
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like most of them were

478
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,240
mid in other words they the voice was

479
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right in the middle of the stereo file

480
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:41,679
in this one it's off to one side which i

481
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:43,679
thought was really

482
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:45,039
i don't know it's just something that i

483
00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:47,520
noticed being an audio guy the the voice

484
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:49,120
in this one is over on

485
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:50,880
one side i guess it depends on where you

486
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:52,240
wear the headphones but

487
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:56,159
it's definitely 70 percent on one side

488
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so it would seem that it came from a

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certain direction

490
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:01,760
and i i don't know what that means but

491
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:03,840
maybe dan can shed some light on this

492
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:06,799
particular clip so in this particular

493
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clip i do agree with what you thought

494
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that it said i think it does sound like

495
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it says he

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is a good god so after after talking

497
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with you

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00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,320
and after going back and reviewing the

499
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:18,240
original files um

500
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,600
you would thought that this came from

501
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the church it actually does not

502
00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:25,760
this actually came from the prison

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clip number clip number two and number

504
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five

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both originated from the same place in

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the prison

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actually during the same evp session so

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in that 15

509
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:39,840
16 minutes that i recorded that's where

510
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two of these came from

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and uh the the grand i guess they call

512
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it the grand ballroom

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at the prison and actually what it does

514
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it's kind of the main it's the middle

515
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part

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00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:53,200
think i want to dance

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i don't think i want to go to a dance in

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a prison yeah and there were like i

519
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:57,760
guess there was a big

520
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:59,679
scene in shawshank redemption that was

521
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:01,200
actually filmed in there or several

522
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:02,559
scenes that were filmed in this room but

523
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,000
basically what this room is

524
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,000
is it splits the prison in half like

525
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you've got one long wing on one side

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and then you've got the ball you know

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like the middle grand ballroom and then

528
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,880
on the second part you have

529
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the other you know long wing and i

530
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:16,480
believe mansfield reformatory at the

531
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time that it was no long

532
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:19,919
it was they stopped using it as a prison

533
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:23,039
actually had the longest cell blocks

534
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,679
in the world anywhere at the time um so

535
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:27,039
i mean they're they're long

536
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,559
and it's and it's dark in there and i

537
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,880
think they're they're four stories up

538
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,960
three or four stories up i believe and

539
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,799
uh when you're standing up on top

540
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,320
yeah and yeah and you're looking down

541
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:38,000
it's uh it's

542
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:40,480
it's pretty intense but and the

543
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,679
acoustics

544
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,440
that's one thing i thought about because

545
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:45,679
the acoustics in a space like that with

546
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:46,640
all those metal

547
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:49,840
bars and metal floor plates and things

548
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,039
like you could drop a

549
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:53,279
pebble in there it would sound like you

550
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:54,320
know

551
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,240
you actually do hear a lot of uh unlike

552
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:58,080
a lot of the other files that i have i

553
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:59,440
mean as i'm sitting here listening you

554
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:01,120
can almost hear what sounds like

555
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:03,279
you know clinging and just just

556
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,559
different metallic sounds but you also

557
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:06,000
have to realize that with the prison in

558
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,039
particular

559
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,200
um they do these they do these ghost

560
00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:10,799
hunts every weekend

561
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:12,320
um so i mean there can be any sometimes

562
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:14,240
there can be anywhere from 60 to 100

563
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:15,440
people in there

564
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,880
now the prison's big enough that you

565
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:19,520
could have 60 70 80 people in there

566
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and you may not see somebody for 45

567
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:23,760
minutes i mean there's just that much

568
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:27,600
area to cover but when you you know you

569
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,880
i guess you do have to take that into

570
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:30,080
account when you're going through all

571
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,960
these tapes and

572
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,799
trying to you know pinpoint these

573
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:35,039
anomalies because they could always be

574
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:37,039
you know the recorder's picking up some

575
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:39,279
guy throwing feet away you know he

576
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:40,720
dropped dropping his cell phone or

577
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,440
something and

578
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,919
it picks it up so that does that's that

579
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:45,120
is something you have to you know kind

580
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:46,640
of look out for when you're going back

581
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,679
through these and

582
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:48,960
trying to figure out if there is

583
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,200
something you know of worth on the

584
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:53,919
on the clip okay and we're gonna go uh

585
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:55,919
we're gonna listen to clip number three

586
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:56,799
now

587
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:59,679
which we've isolated and uh let's take a

588
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:00,000
listen

589
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:32,630
wow

590
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:40,549
once more

591
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,710
yeah friends so uh that's the third clip

592
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:47,120
do not come back and look for evil

593
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,640
that's what i believe that it said

594
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:50,480
having let's do it let me pop this back

595
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:50,799
just

596
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:53,360
while we talk about it so can you tell

597
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,880
us about this specific clip

598
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,279
where it was taken in the circumstances

599
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,600
so this clip was taken at the church

600
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:00,960
at the pioneer village that we were

601
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,640
talking about earlier and

602
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,480
the way that this hunt was set up was it

603
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:06,640
was it was organized by another

604
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,559
um you know ghost hunter from the local

605
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,559
area and he you know he was kind of the

606
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,000
one who was like the guide because he

607
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,919
had done several investigations

608
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:15,360
he's the one talking through the clip

609
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,559
that i heard he's the one that you can

610
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:18,480
hear talking like asking the questions

611
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:19,200
now

612
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:22,080
at at some point in the evening uh there

613
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:22,480
was a

614
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,600
i guess considered himself to be some

615
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:29,200
kind of psychic medium

616
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:31,760
or something along those lines so it's

617
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:33,520
almost like he kind of ends up taking

618
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,400
over

619
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:36,720
the investigation like from from the

620
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,679
other guy

621
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:40,320
but uh it was strange because at the

622
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:41,520
time that this guy

623
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,200
stood up and i i kind of felt like he

624
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,880
was being very like for show

625
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,320
you know during this whole thing like

626
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:48,159
just attention grabbing is kind of what

627
00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:49,200
it seemed like to me

628
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:51,279
but it's strange that like when this guy

629
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:52,880
got up and started talking

630
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:55,520
um he does the you know what i call the

631
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,960
flashlight trick which is kind of like

632
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:57,919
the new

633
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,240
you know the like it's kind of like the

634
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:02,000
new ghost trick that you see on tv and

635
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,279
stuff now like they take this

636
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,200
you know this flashlight and they turn

637
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:07,200
it just you know almost to where it's

638
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:09,440
it's on but it's almost off and then

639
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,559
they sit it there

640
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,159
and then they start asking questions and

641
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:13,760
it's like the ghost can

642
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,720
you know turn this flashlight on and you

643
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:17,919
know he started doing a little bit of

644
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,559
that

645
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,559
and i did notice some temperature

646
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:22,080
variation in the room

647
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,520
like when he started doing that and my

648
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,200
dad was actually with me for this and he

649
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,640
was sitting right next to me

650
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:28,480
and i think it was gonna get uh did it

651
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,679
get colder

652
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:31,120
well it was almost like it would sort of

653
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,200
get cold but then like it would sort of

654
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:34,799
it would almost dissipate

655
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,120
and then as this was going on and he's

656
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,880
doing the flashlight thing

657
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:40,880
you know i mean again at the time i kind

658
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,799
of thought it was bs but like as i

659
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,919
you know after sitting there kind of

660
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,600
thinking about what it happened in there

661
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:47,440
yeah

662
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:49,279
there were some there were some strange

663
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:50,799
things that were happening but it was

664
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:51,200
almost

665
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:54,399
more like you know again it just it just

666
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,320
almost seemed like it was more of a show

667
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:58,399
on his part but i mean you can't deny at

668
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:59,679
least for me

669
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,520
that there was definitely some some

670
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:02,960
temperature variation and just some

671
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,559
overall kind of strangeness

672
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:07,039
about the church in particular yeah and

673
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,600
uh

674
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,840
just i i wanted to mention that i

675
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:11,440
believe this is the clip

676
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,520
that right before this evp is heard

677
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:17,919
someone is asking the spirits do they

678
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,600
like living in a church

679
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:20,880
do they feel like it's safe there

680
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:22,399
because it's a house of god or something

681
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:23,120
like that

682
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,600
and then we get this evp which to me

683
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,039
i don't know the source of it but it

684
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,120
sounds clearly like it's saying do not

685
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:33,039
come back and look for evil which is a

686
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,159
strange thing

687
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:36,640
for a ghost to say in a church you know

688
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:37,600
i don't know well

689
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,960
when i listened to this earlier i

690
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:40,559
actually listened to it with these

691
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,360
headphones

692
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:43,840
i listened to it with my apple my my

693
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,919
earbuds and i listen to it without

694
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:47,600
without headphones at all just right off

695
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:50,240
the uh the phone and it's almost like

696
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,840
on all three you know all three

697
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,279
different times i listen to it

698
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,480
you almost sort of pick it up

699
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,399
differently like i definitely

700
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:58,880
i definitely hear the look for evil part

701
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,760
at the end

702
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,440
and then the do not come back part it's

703
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:03,840
like i sort of i sort of can pick it up

704
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:05,360
but then it's like you know i listen to

705
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,399
it on a different

706
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:08,000
on a different set of earphones and it

707
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:09,679
comes in i don't know if it's just a

708
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,840
freak you know the

709
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:12,559
frequency and the frequencies is more

710
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,559
very you would probably hear it less

711
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,399
tinnier ones you would probably hear it

712
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:18,559
more and that's just been my experience

713
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:20,080
so far in

714
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:21,679
the stuff that you sent me it seems like

715
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:23,840
if i if i filter it a little bit

716
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,799
and eq it eq the highs up a little more

717
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:28,559
and the lows and the mids down a little

718
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,279
more

719
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,080
whatever is being said seems to me to my

720
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,399
ears to become clearer

721
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,480
yeah like i said i can i definitely pick

722
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,640
up the end and then the do not like i

723
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,320
kind of hear the do not

724
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:42,000
and then it's almost like i sort of lose

725
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,600
the comeback part but then when i

726
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:45,200
listened to it without the headphones

727
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:46,880
just right off the cell phone

728
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,880
i felt like i almost did sort of pick up

729
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,799
the do not come back

730
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:52,399
and look for evil it's almost like

731
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:53,919
they'd always like the very the very

732
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:56,799
last part of it's always like drawn out

733
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:00,720
yeah like yeah i noticed that yeah

734
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,480
okay well i guess we have just a few

735
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,480
more clips so the

736
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:06,080
i think the next one is my favorite

737
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:08,159
we're gonna move on and listen to clip

738
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:08,880
number four

739
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:12,960
from this oh and i just want to mention

740
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,320
pardon the males clip

741
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,919
clicks i don't know how i missed that

742
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,919
but i didn't edit those now

743
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,600
i put this together very quickly today

744
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:21,120
just so that we could definitely do this

745
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,679
show

746
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:23,919
i've been kind of trying to get to this

747
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:25,520
show for quite a while

748
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:28,240
and i apologize dan takes time but let's

749
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:29,600
listen to the clip

750
00:31:10,149 --> 00:30:41,350
is that right

751
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,990
well i don't know do you want to talk

752
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:13,279
about this one

753
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:14,960
what were the circumstances surrounding

754
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:18,159
this one so this one was also at the

755
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:19,919
church same location

756
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:21,840
um the gentleman is talking in the

757
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:23,360
background but right at the beginning of

758
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:25,120
the clip was actually the guy who was

759
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,880
you know supposed to be kind of in

760
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,159
charge of the whole

761
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:31,360
the whole hunt that night um

762
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,880
yeah i don't know this one sort of this

763
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:34,480
one sort of boggles my mind a little bit

764
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:36,000
because like i said i've listened

765
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:38,320
i've listened to this you know to your

766
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:39,360
to your filter

767
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:42,720
or your isolated um video like i don't

768
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:46,399
even know how many times today

769
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,960
this one like i just i i know that

770
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:51,120
there's something there like i hear it

771
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:53,600
and but like at the beginning of it is

772
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,200
not clear to me at all like i

773
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:57,039
i really have a hard time i guess i

774
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,480
guess understanding what it's

775
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,480
what it's saying yeah i could be wrong

776
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:02,559
in my interpretation of what i believe

777
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:05,760
it's saying um but i

778
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:08,399
definitely hear it it's true at the end

779
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:10,159
it's true i definitely i definitely hear

780
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,720
that it's

781
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:12,399
true because again it almost like it

782
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:14,559
sort of it's true like it drags

783
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:17,679
it drags the end out um and then it does

784
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:18,640
kind of sound like it

785
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:21,279
it starts to say the true but then like

786
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:22,559
the god is real part

787
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,360
i just i i don't i guess yeah yeah

788
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,039
everybody's got different ears i'll be

789
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,399
interested to see

790
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,320
what the people with the other people

791
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:32,480
listening to it and i did just want to

792
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:33,760
mention that somebody

793
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:36,320
uh i don't know somebody commented like

794
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,039
this is nonsense i don't hear any voices

795
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:41,519
yeah i saw it and i thought like really

796
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:42,399
how do you not

797
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:45,919
i mean i listen i i'm as skeptical as

798
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:47,519
the next person but there's definitely

799
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,240
voices

800
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:50,159
in there i don't know the source of the

801
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:51,519
voices are these ghosts

802
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,320
demons or somebody whispering you know

803
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,880
in another room it could be

804
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:58,880
but there's definitely at least you

805
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:00,799
should admit that there's voices there

806
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:02,080
what do they mean what is the

807
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:04,399
significance what are the source

808
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:07,039
i'm not sure we can know for sure but i

809
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:07,519
mean

810
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:10,159
ultimately i'm not i'm not sold on even

811
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:11,760
the even the best clips that i've ever

812
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:12,880
caught which i mean several i mean

813
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:14,559
you've got several of them here but it's

814
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:15,039
like

815
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:16,559
you can you can listen to him a hundred

816
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:17,919
thousand times and even if you were

817
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,320
there

818
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:20,159
in the moment like i was it's like i

819
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:21,679
didn't really feel other than like at

820
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:22,720
the church with a little bit of the

821
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,159
temperature variation

822
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:25,919
i mean i've been to the prison three or

823
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:28,000
four times doing different hunts

824
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:29,360
i've never had it i've never had a

825
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,120
strange experience in there

826
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:33,440
i've never had that like goosebump you

827
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,519
know hair stand up like on my arm kind

828
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,760
of feeling when i've been in there

829
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:39,279
but it's like every time i leave and i

830
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:40,799
go back and i look through these tapes i

831
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,840
always find

832
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,600
you know scattered kind of throughout

833
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,039
these hours of

834
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:47,120
of recordings there's always something

835
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:48,640
that i come out of there with

836
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,919
yeah there's definitely got to be

837
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:51,760
something oh wait a minute so

838
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:54,799
my uh my share screen i didn't want to

839
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:57,279
remove that let me try

840
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:00,720
we'll go back oh there we go

841
00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:02,240
all right i shouldn't be touching

842
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:04,840
buttons if i don't know what'll happen

843
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:07,519
right that's part of being your own

844
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:08,560
producer

845
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,520
to the last one we have just one more

846
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,679
clip and and uh i think we're doing

847
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:17,200
great on time so that's good because i

848
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,079
would just like to

849
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:20,000
ask you some additional questions after

850
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:21,440
this but let's uh

851
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,560
let's get to the last one which this

852
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:25,679
last one i thought

853
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:27,679
sounded the most human of all of them

854
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,440
and was the most

855
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,440
easy for me to say that's what it's

856
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:33,839
saying i could be wrong again but uh

857
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:35,839
this one was the clearest to me and

858
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:36,639
required

859
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:39,679
nothing i didn't eq this one i just

860
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,750
is that right

861
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,520
oh i'm sorry that was the last of the

862
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:53,839
last one so here's

863
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:56,000
here's the here's clip five sorry

864
00:35:07,670 --> 00:34:57,359
friends so this is clip

865
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:23,589
here again

866
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:39,109
you know i think once more

867
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,670
one last time

868
00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:47,599
oh yeah so this one seems like it's

869
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:48,870
saying it's a good home

870
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,069
and this whole uh one second here i'll

871
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:58,480
stop get that out of there and there we

872
00:36:02,470 --> 00:35:59,359
go

873
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,480
so those are the five clips but i just

874
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:03,920
should mention that

875
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,400
there was a lot a lot more in in the

876
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:07,760
audio that he sent me

877
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:10,720
because after i went through the ones

878
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:13,680
where he gave me timestamps i thought

879
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:16,960
uh let me filter this a little bit

880
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:19,280
and uh eq it and again i just eq the

881
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:20,160
whole file

882
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,000
the whole raw files if they were 15

883
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:24,160
minutes long with higher eq

884
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:27,280
lower mid and bass and then again i sat

885
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:28,160
with uh

886
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:31,839
headphones and in between what you know

887
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,200
is human voices you hear some of

888
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:37,359
i heard a lot of additional stuff but

889
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,160
now i'm kind of wondering like is it

890
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,640
just because if you take i don't know if

891
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:44,240
you take any ambient

892
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,760
room recording and blast it

893
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:49,839
you know and filter a little bit that

894
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,800
you might not hear

895
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,560
anomalies or things that you think are

896
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:54,400
voices when they're not

897
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:56,960
so i'm just kind of curious i have to go

898
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:58,160
back

899
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:01,680
and like pull out more stuff and see

900
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,920
if i'm right that those are voices or if

901
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,040
that's just

902
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:07,920
sort of like uh i liken it to like

903
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,560
seeing

904
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:11,040
you know a car in the clouds you know

905
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:12,880
sure like am i looking for the

906
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,520
i'm i started i started i'm sure that i

907
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:17,520
did i started actively looking

908
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,560
for patterns that you know your brain

909
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,640
looks for patterns that it can identify

910
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:24,160
so i listened to this stuff and

911
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,960
and i marked a bunch of more time stamps

912
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:29,280
but i could be totally just

913
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,480
i don't know what i'm doing but

914
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,800
i'm trying to hear i think like you said

915
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,520
you know you

916
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,839
you listen to it and it's like you you

917
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,680
think you you think you heard something

918
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,200
like you kind of convinced yourself

919
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:43,200
almost that you heard something

920
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,560
but then it's like trying to convince

921
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:46,480
you know 20 other people that that's

922
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:47,280
what it is

923
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:48,400
that's a whole different process because

924
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,079
it's almost like everybody hears

925
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:52,160
something different like on clip five

926
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:53,760
uh just to kind of go over that clip

927
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:55,119
real quick because because we didn't

928
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,240
just a minute ago but

929
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,320
that is probably my favorite clip of all

930
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:00,320
time just because that was the very

931
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:01,680
first evp

932
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:04,160
that i ever captured uh and that was at

933
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:04,800
the prison

934
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:10,880
that grand ballroom and i think because

935
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:12,800
i've listened to it probably 200 times

936
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:14,720
at this point

937
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:17,599
i have conditioned my brain to think

938
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:18,000
that that

939
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:20,160
says get out like even when you said

940
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,000
like when i walked when i looked at your

941
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,839
um like your snippet of what you thought

942
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,440
it said like it's a good home

943
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:27,119
like i i think i've just heard it so

944
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:29,119
many times like i have convinced

945
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:31,119
myself like oh wow so i was completely

946
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:32,720
off on that one i swear

947
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:35,119
it sounded like i think like you said i

948
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:36,720
think everybody hears

949
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,960
it's almost like you kind of hear your

950
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:40,560
your brain hears what you wanted to hear

951
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:41,359
you know like

952
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:42,880
the very first time i heard it that was

953
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:44,000
the first thing that popped in my head

954
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,720
was get out

955
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,560
and i played it to everybody and they're

956
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:47,920
like oh yeah that kind of sounds like

957
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,960
get out and then when you

958
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,640
you know you hammer it and you hammer it

959
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,480
and it's just like it

960
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:55,440
it said like to me it's get out but i do

961
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:55,760
like

962
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:57,440
when i listen to it on your you know

963
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:59,599
enhanced file i almost do sort of pick

964
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,800
up a little bit more

965
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,880
i guess verbage there to where you know

966
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:04,480
it's a good home and i heard i listened

967
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,839
to it and i listened to it again and

968
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:07,520
again just trying to see

969
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,240
if i could make out that pattern and i

970
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:12,880
again i guess i do feel like i do

971
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,040
but again because i've listened to it so

972
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:17,520
many times i think i just had myself

973
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:20,880
convinced that it said yeah i'm in the

974
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:21,599
same boat

975
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,400
i kind of i kind of thought okay i could

976
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,920
be way off here

977
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:28,000
uh what i think this says and i got a

978
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,599
few emails of people like

979
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:31,200
yeah it sounds like what you said and

980
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,960
then i got a few emails like no it's

981
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,640
it's not saying this it's saying this

982
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,480
dummy yeah

983
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:38,560
it's one of those this is one of those

984
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:40,480
weird things where like

985
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,160
you could be right and wrong at the same

986
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:44,240
time i guess we're like

987
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,839
i don't know where this takes us to

988
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,599
though but

989
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:49,200
i want to thank you because i've always

990
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,640
had an interest in this kind of

991
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:52,400
phenomenon and never had an opportunity

992
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:53,680
to actually

993
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:56,000
dig into it but i have for a little

994
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:58,000
while here and it's been kind of fun to

995
00:40:01,829 --> 00:40:01,359
go let's do a deep dive on this stuff

996
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:01,839
and see

997
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:04,240
is there something to this or like and

998
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:04,880
i'm still

999
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:09,280
and i'd like to try there's a graveyard

1000
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:10,000
near me so

1001
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:11,920
i may go try to do a recording and

1002
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:14,720
prompt ghosts and see what i pick up

1003
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,000
just to see if i pick up anything

1004
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,960
or not i don't know you know well i

1005
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:22,160
think like what you were saying before

1006
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:23,760
about the prison i mean given the

1007
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,839
given the you know the scope of the

1008
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,839
building and the acoustics and all the

1009
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,359
metal and stuff that's in there

1010
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:31,280
i mean there's just so there's so much

1011
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:33,200
interference i think both digitally

1012
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:34,079
because there's

1013
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:36,160
whenever there's a hunt in there every

1014
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:37,440
once in a while you'll get like an

1015
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:38,000
actual

1016
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,680
you know a paranormal team i was

1017
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,280
actually fortunate enough to be there

1018
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:42,960
one night when there was a

1019
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:45,040
like they're like an ohio famous

1020
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,160
paranormal team

1021
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:48,800
ghost party yeah yeah all right they had

1022
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,760
they had equipment

1023
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,040
your money's worth that night because

1024
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,040
you got to watch these these guys

1025
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,640
looking for the ghosts

1026
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,480
but no i mean again it's just like

1027
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,680
there's when there's so much

1028
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:58,960
interference in there with all the

1029
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:01,359
equipment and just people walking and

1030
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:04,079
just the the building itself um it

1031
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:05,520
really makes it hard like when like i

1032
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:06,800
said when you're trying to go through

1033
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:07,200
and

1034
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:09,119
you know pinpoint is this a voice like

1035
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,040
what is it saying you really have to

1036
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:13,920
kind of dive deep and you know try to

1037
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:14,800
try to

1038
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,720
i guess debunk as much stuff as you can

1039
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,240
so you can actually you know

1040
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,240
present this i guess is yeah this isn't

1041
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,240
this is a legit evp

1042
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:24,960
yeah absolutely so i hate to do this to

1043
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,319
you at the end but we're gonna

1044
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,400
turn our attention to the live chat and

1045
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:31,040
you're the first contestant on grow my

1046
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,240
guest

1047
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,800
so i'm not giving you an option of

1048
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,319
answering questions or not

1049
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,480
i'm gonna i'm gonna force you to so

1050
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,079
everybody in the live chat if you have

1051
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,079
questions for dan hogan concerning how

1052
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:43,680
he recorded these

1053
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:47,040
or is equipment or anything

1054
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,480
related to uh the show oh we have

1055
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:52,480
celebrities in the audience tonight we

1056
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:52,880
have

1057
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:56,000
cal korff is here and we

1058
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:58,560
have pragmatic as well i saw there's

1059
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,280
paranormal

1060
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:01,440
jiggy shout out to you guys sid rich is

1061
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,800
here jonas is here out of mind this year

1062
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,960
not sure who else so if you guys have

1063
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,160
questions for dan

1064
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:09,680
please make sure that you put them in

1065
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:18,390
uh david bucky said

1066
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,440
this one said wilcox phony

1067
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:23,359
god damn it david bucky can i get

1068
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:26,079
through one broadcast without somebody

1069
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,280
slamming that [\h__\h] he's got enough

1070
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:31,200
problems looking for dildos he doesn't

1071
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,069
uh out of mind says oh wait out of mind

1072
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:42,880
one second got the wrong one out of mind

1073
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,200
said

1074
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:46,240
perceptions differ person to person

1075
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:53,589
spooky dan hogan what are you wearing

1076
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,400
it's my uh

1077
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:56,880
it's my game of thrones house dark shirt

1078
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:58,000
because you have to represent

1079
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:59,599
when you come on oh that's so funny i

1080
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:01,359
almost wore gamers listen

1081
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,760
i'm getting i'm turning to an old man

1082
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:05,440
and like all my favorite old t-shirts

1083
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:06,800
are getting all ratty and be

1084
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:09,839
up so i was looking in here earlier and

1085
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,920
my wife put these brand new t-shirts in

1086
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,440
here a long time ago but they're all

1087
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:15,040
game of thrones and i'm like

1088
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,800
i'm gonna look like a year behind

1089
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:18,720
trendsville if i wear this shirt

1090
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:20,720
so i didn't wear it but i've seen you

1091
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:22,000
i've seen you rep that father of

1092
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,440
wildling shirt i feel like i need to get

1093
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:24,960
that for me because i got twin daughters

1094
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,000
running around here destroying

1095
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,800
my house so oh well i'm not the only one

1096
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:30,640
daniel yeah we're having major

1097
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:33,119
we're having major construction after

1098
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,079
the summer

1099
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:36,240
to close off more of the house because i

1100
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,520
have this huge house

1101
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:40,400
and uh they get into everything in every

1102
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:41,040
area

1103
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:42,720
we have this huge basement that runs the

1104
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:44,000
whole length of the house so we're

1105
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,200
closing that off

1106
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,160
to be the adult zone you know yeah

1107
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:49,599
they've figured out how to open all the

1108
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,160
doors

1109
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:52,160
and i got a third one actually on the

1110
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,400
way that's coming next month so

1111
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,880
congratulations you should have stopped

1112
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,800
that too

1113
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,640
i wasn't exactly trying but i guess here

1114
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,960
we are oh yeah my second one was a

1115
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,760
surprise

1116
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:06,000
yeah my wife just comes home one day and

1117
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:07,440
like oh that was a

1118
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:09,200
that was the hugest surprise in my life

1119
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,640
like because we thought we were done

1120
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,319
one and done and you know but i'm

1121
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:15,119
clipped now so if my wife and she's

1122
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:18,720
fixed too so if if there any new babies

1123
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:21,280
come it will be by immaculate conception

1124
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:23,280
let's get to the questions here dan how

1125
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:24,560
do you feel about zach

1126
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:27,599
baggins is kell truth 77

1127
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:30,720
um so does that zach bake

1128
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:33,119
vegans or baggins i mean i watched like

1129
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,240
his original

1130
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,480
documentary that he did and it almost

1131
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,760
kind of seemed like in the beginning

1132
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,760
when he started he was a little bit more

1133
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,079
i guess passionate about the topic and

1134
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:44,319
as he got more famous and as his [\h__\h]

1135
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:45,760
you know his ghost adventures became

1136
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,880
more popular

1137
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:48,720
i think it really just became more of a

1138
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,000
money maker for him and

1139
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:52,079
i think he he never really took the

1140
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,599
investigation part

1141
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:55,119
seriously plus i mean there's so much

1142
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,800
stuff that you don't see

1143
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:58,640
on the show because they edit it down

1144
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:00,560
you know to get it into a 45 minute

1145
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:03,440
hour yeah for television i said once

1146
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:04,960
something once where it was like eight

1147
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:07,280
hours of filming for like 14 minutes of

1148
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,240
footage

1149
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,520
yeah as many episodes as there have been

1150
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,800
a ghost adventures i mean i don't know

1151
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:14,319
whether they're like 300 of them now

1152
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,520
yeah you gotta give him that he's the

1153
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:17,280
most successful ghost hunter

1154
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:18,480
they've been on the longest i didn't

1155
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,680
know that i didn't know anything about

1156
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:21,280
him i know i saw the one documentary

1157
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:22,800
like the hell house or something which i

1158
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,680
thought

1159
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,760
started out great and then it got hooky

1160
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:27,599
as hell towards the end and stupid

1161
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,680
because i guess he needed to sell the

1162
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:31,520
documentary i don't know

1163
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:33,119
he's got the bet he's he's got the best

1164
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,640
on base percentage in all of

1165
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,400
paranormal ghost hunting because he does

1166
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,400
not go to a location and not pick up

1167
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,160
something you got to give it to that

1168
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,000
you gotta you gotta find something or

1169
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:44,160
there's no show dan hogan

1170
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,319
you hate her people are tuning in to

1171
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:47,520
seeing your ghosts

1172
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:49,119
dude you gotta give them a little bit of

1173
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,640
that [\h__\h] well you know you gotta give

1174
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:52,079
them some showmanship but i mean you

1175
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:53,680
just gotta process present the evidence

1176
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:54,720
and you gotta let people make up their

1177
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,079
mind but he's definitely

1178
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,560
very over the top with how he comes

1179
00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:00,319
across on the show and how he listens

1180
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:01,920
i don't want to hear any more complaints

1181
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:04,240
i may become possessed right now

1182
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:07,520
because we need views and then maybe

1183
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,560
you know a demon will take me over

1184
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,160
while we're talking about these evps

1185
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:14,480
maybe one of the demons from the evp

1186
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:15,280
will come and go

1187
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:18,319
i said this you [\h__\h] listen um just

1188
00:46:20,309 --> 00:46:18,800
so you

1189
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,319
here just to add a little spice to this

1190
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,319
i'm pretty sure that in one of the clips

1191
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,000
the demonic voice is trying to tell

1192
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:26,480
david wilcock the location of at least

1193
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,160
five of the dildos look into that

1194
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:32,240
look at six's design asks have you ever

1195
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,680
been presented one you knew was an

1196
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:35,520
obvious hoax but still pass it off is

1197
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,920
totally legit

1198
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,839
well i mean everything that i've got i

1199
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,680
mean is all stuff that i've recorded

1200
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,280
and i mean obviously i've heard you know

1201
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:45,119
i've heard different recordings from

1202
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:46,560
various shows and

1203
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,319
and stuff online i mean i've never

1204
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,240
passed that off to anybody as

1205
00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:52,000
you know hey this is no dan's not out

1206
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,599
there selling anything by the way yeah i

1207
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:55,440
mean everyone gave me money for this and

1208
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,319
we you know

1209
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:58,160
i don't have any money and he knows it

1210
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:59,440
so we're good

1211
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:01,280
now this is this is he's not out there

1212
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,040
selling this [\h__\h] this is just more of

1213
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:04,800
like a side hobby kind of like little

1214
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:06,079
passion project

1215
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:07,440
like like your computer that you were

1216
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:08,480
talking about the other night this is

1217
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:10,079
just something that i enjoy

1218
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,680
you know doing and it's something that i

1219
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,760
you know just i'm not trying to

1220
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,520
get anywhere with this i just i just

1221
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:17,200
like to go out and i'm just looking for

1222
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,720
the answers like everybody else

1223
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:20,559
you're starting right at the bottom of

1224
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,200
show business here with me

1225
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:25,839
welcome to the gutter my friend you're

1226
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:26,800
starting this

1227
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:30,079
[\h__\h] show of the world here that's an

1228
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,559
all right

1229
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:32,720
but listen there's always there's always

1230
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,520
good news and the good news is

1231
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:37,119
the next show you're on has got to be

1232
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:38,559
better than mine

1233
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:41,520
it's got to be better than my show so to

1234
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,280
get back into six's question i mean as

1235
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:45,599
far as like an obvious hoax i mean

1236
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:47,119
you know it's like i said everything

1237
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:48,960
that you hear from from my clips and i

1238
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:50,079
mean pretty much anything you're gonna

1239
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:50,400
hear

1240
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:52,079
online or on any of these shows it's all

1241
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:53,760
open to interpretation i mean like i

1242
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,880
said everybody

1243
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,880
kind of hears a different variation of

1244
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,640
something you know some people claim

1245
00:48:01,670 --> 00:48:00,160
that there's nothing and some people say

1246
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,680
oh it says this and then the next guy

1247
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,720
says it says that so

1248
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:04,319
this isn't about trying to make somebody

1249
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,760
believe that it says one thing yeah

1250
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,599
i like that about you you didn't try to

1251
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:11,119
convince me you said

1252
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:13,119
joy's still out with me too i would like

1253
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,720
to know what you think of this steve and

1254
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:16,559
maybe you could filter it or you know

1255
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:19,200
isolate some of it so we didn't really

1256
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,000
try to sell

1257
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:22,720
this or you know try to hype it up or

1258
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:24,240
okay and caltruth

1259
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,400
77 i haven't even seen the movie but

1260
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:28,160
i've seen all his episodes he's just

1261
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:28,800
really

1262
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,440
tell truth come on man that's why you

1263
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:33,520
watch him because he's nice to look at

1264
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:35,040
am i not nice to look at

1265
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,640
my mother always said i had a face for

1266
00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:38,720
radio maybe i should have stayed on the

1267
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,079
radio

1268
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:42,480
cal truth i'm sorry that i do not live

1269
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:43,839
up to your paranormal

1270
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,160
hot guy expectations i'm very

1271
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:48,400
disappointed in you well stephen i'm

1272
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,599
curious to hear what you think about

1273
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,040
that i mean i know there are several

1274
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:53,200
paranormal shows on television now and i

1275
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:54,240
mean there's a lot of stuff on the

1276
00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:55,839
internet these days i mean is there

1277
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,960
is there anything that you've come

1278
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:58,640
across and you're you know in your

1279
00:49:02,069 --> 00:49:00,160
research where you're just like

1280
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:02,079
damn i think this is i think this is

1281
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,839
some legit stuff that these guys are

1282
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,160
are you know putting out in front of me

1283
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,160
yeah boy you're gonna put me on the spot

1284
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,960
i i i don't know you know because lately

1285
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:12,480
i've been retreading stuff

1286
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:14,720
almost from my childhood that i know now

1287
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:17,520
is fake you know bob lazar and

1288
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,559
uh you know uh the stranger at the

1289
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:22,400
pentagon this valiant thor

1290
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,559
and stuff that i'm just sure is fake i

1291
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:26,160
haven't been keeping up but i'm trying

1292
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:27,040
to get to

1293
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,880
i have a bunch of stuff on my list that

1294
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:30,880
i've heard about and then i've been

1295
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:31,359
doing

1296
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,480
uh i don't know i found like

1297
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:37,040
lately i'm i'm more watching like

1298
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:38,400
documentaries about

1299
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:40,800
terraforming mars and the possibilities

1300
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,520
with that

1301
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,440
watching paranormal or supernatural

1302
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:45,440
stuff

1303
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,720
so yeah what's good out there i think

1304
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,160
everybody has their own opinion of

1305
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:51,760
what's good out there

1306
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,440
and you know i piss a lot of people off

1307
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:54,880
sometimes

1308
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,640
do we have enough people pissed off at

1309
00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:58,720
me dan hogan i'm not gonna talk trash

1310
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:01,760
i'll say that most of what i see is

1311
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:03,599
suspects because yeah you just have to

1312
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:05,599
remember like if they have a tv show

1313
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:06,079
it's called

1314
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,280
finding bigfoot and there's like 85

1315
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,200
episodes of that show

1316
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:12,960
how do they keep that show going that

1317
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,280
long they gotta show you something

1318
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,119
look we put an apple on the tree and

1319
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:19,520
somebody took it must be bigfoot

1320
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,559
and the same thing with the ghost

1321
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,720
hunting shows like they have to show you

1322
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:24,720
something or there's no show

1323
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:27,200
so i'm always suspect of those shows

1324
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:28,160
yeah i mean i've been at lo

1325
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,520
i've been at locations where you know

1326
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:31,680
i'll be there for you know four five six

1327
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:33,920
hours and i haven't picked up a thing

1328
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,400
and like for zach bacon like i said to

1329
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:37,920
be batting a thousand on ghost

1330
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,240
adventures always getting something

1331
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:42,880
um yeah it's definitely there's some

1332
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:45,200
there's some money to be made

1333
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:48,400
in that business yeah and cultures made

1334
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:50,000
me feel better she said hey you know i'm

1335
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,359
here every night

1336
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:53,520
i can just to look at you stephen you

1337
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:55,200
know what that's good caltrans because

1338
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,240
here's the deal

1339
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:58,079
like what's that guy that got that i

1340
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,680
don't got besides

1341
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:02,160
millions of dollars and rugged good

1342
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,960
looks and those

1343
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:05,359
he's like pretty muscular too i think

1344
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,079
and holly madison he's dating holly

1345
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:10,800
madison the playboy girl and he's got a

1346
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:12,720
dip what's he got he's got a dybbuk box

1347
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,680
and a helmet

1348
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,000
yeah yeah yeah so he's got a double box

1349
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:18,160
tell truth i'll make my own divot box

1350
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:21,599
[\h__\h] that guy [\h__\h] [\h__\h] that guy

1351
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,920
[\h__\h] that guy but thank you for saying

1352
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:25,200
that i appreciate it

1353
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,630
uh i don't know what this is about two

1354
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,640
participants in chat

1355
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,640
haven't plucked oh thumbed up they

1356
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:40,160
really need to help out truth seekers a

1357
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:41,920
bunch yes please like subscribe and

1358
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,720
thumbs up

1359
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,480
i hear you crack are you cracking beers

1360
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:45,920
then i'm not gonna feel bad i'm gonna

1361
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,720
crack one

1362
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:49,040
look i got the big i got the big ones

1363
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:50,800
today you know why

1364
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:52,240
because when i tell my wife i'm only

1365
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,240
gonna have two beers

1366
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:55,920
here you go that's how you get away with

1367
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:57,520
that i'm always gonna have two

1368
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,720
i'm only gonna have two beers yeah i'm

1369
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,119
only gonna have two beers

1370
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:05,680
so listen dan i i really appreciate you

1371
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,040
involving me with this because i always

1372
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:08,720
wanted to try this and it went pretty

1373
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:10,400
well i'm sorry it took so long but i had

1374
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:11,680
all this stuff ahead of it

1375
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:13,920
and what i was doing is i was looking at

1376
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,520
just one he sent me like

1377
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:17,599
six or seven files and i mean i wanted

1378
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,280
to make sure i listened to the whole

1379
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,520
thing just in case you missed stuff and

1380
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:23,280
it takes time to do this

1381
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:25,520
but i'm glad that i put the time in and

1382
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,559
and it's fun now

1383
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:28,160
i feel like i accomplished something to

1384
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:29,680
get this off my to-do list

1385
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:30,800
we mentioned that we were going to do

1386
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:32,319
this for some time thanks for your

1387
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:33,040
patience

1388
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:34,640
oh no not a problem like i said i'm glad

1389
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:35,680
that you were able to you know run it

1390
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:36,559
through your software because

1391
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:37,760
unfortunately i'm not

1392
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,599
i'm not a you know tech savvy in those

1393
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:41,200
departments so for you to be able to run

1394
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:42,400
it through and i guess try to get a

1395
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:43,280
better

1396
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:46,319
filtered audio clip from it uh it

1397
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,599
definitely after listening to it it

1398
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:48,960
definitely makes me think that again

1399
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:49,440
there's

1400
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:53,680
guess that's anybody's guess but

1401
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,880
uh it does sound like there's something

1402
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:59,119
you know to be to be listened to there

1403
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,559
yeah here we have a

1404
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:02,960
comments here that should be a segment

1405
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:04,000
[\h__\h] that guy

1406
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:05,680
you know what i think you're right we're

1407
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:07,359
gonna do we're gonna do a new segment

1408
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:08,160
every

1409
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:11,359
guy because there's a lot of guys i

1410
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:11,680
think

1411
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:14,960
should go get [\h__\h] but see everybody

1412
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,720
likes when i spit venom when i try to do

1413
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,160
a nice just fun show

1414
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,000
like and talk about something cool like

1415
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,599
this everybody's like why isn't he

1416
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,119
busting balls tonight

1417
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:25,520
right why isn't he busting anybody's ass

1418
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:27,200
i did like your show on dolan

1419
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,960
i thought the the the show that you did

1420
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,240
on dolan i found uh

1421
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:32,880
that i i took a lot from that just you

1422
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,280
know

1423
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:35,359
i guess my my initial thoughts on him

1424
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,280
like when i kind of got into this

1425
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,960
topic you know more you know he always

1426
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:40,640
seemed like somebody who was

1427
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,920
i guess you know one of the more

1428
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:43,760
credible uh people

1429
00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:46,800
in ufology or in the you know the ufo

1430
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:49,119
arena and it's a nice facade he's

1431
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:50,800
painted up there and nice well like you

1432
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:51,680
said i mean it says

1433
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:53,520
it says hustle you know like these other

1434
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:54,880
guys they kind of come out there with

1435
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,079
the fantasy

1436
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:58,559
sci-fi the sci-fi story he comes at it

1437
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,800
from the like you said the academic

1438
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,400
sort of point of view and it works for

1439
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:04,160
him i'm not saying he's a bad guy i mean

1440
00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:05,359
i still like some of his

1441
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:07,599
i like a bunch of stuff i have to admit

1442
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,960
but i'm still disappointed

1443
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:10,800
in the number of fake stories and i'm

1444
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:12,480
extremely disappointed

1445
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:15,359
that he's really all chips in on this

1446
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:16,640
wilson documents

1447
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:19,920
because like yeah he's in

1448
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,760
you know when with him being as tight as

1449
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,119
he is with linda moulton howell

1450
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:25,280
i guess that kind of makes me feel like

1451
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,280
maybe he's not quite as uh

1452
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:29,359
as legit as he tries but i mean i guess

1453
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,400
a lot of people probably don't know that

1454
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:31,920
you know like you mentioned about his

1455
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:34,400
social media you know manager i'm sure

1456
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,839
that most people had never even heard

1457
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:37,520
anything like that until you would

1458
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:39,119
brought that up yeah and the only reason

1459
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:40,720
i knew that is because i had emailed

1460
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,599
them both

1461
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,400
and then the same person emailed me back

1462
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:46,000
and i recognized the name and i went

1463
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,760
where do i know this person from

1464
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,599
social media manager and i went to my

1465
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:50,960
old emails and went

1466
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,799
that's linda bolton hale's social media

1467
00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:54,720
manager too same name and i looked her

1468
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:56,480
up it's the same exact person

1469
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,400
i don't know if they still do but these

1470
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,760
are like like i said

1471
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:01,920
it's a big club and i ain't in it

1472
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:03,119
nobody's gonna think any of this

1473
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:06,640
none of us tell fake [\h__\h] for money

1474
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:08,480
you know it's a lot harder out here

1475
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:10,160
trying to do this honestly

1476
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:11,440
you know there was a period of time

1477
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:13,040
where when you know when i was listening

1478
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:14,079
to a lot of dolan

1479
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:17,200
i sort of got the the feeling that at

1480
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:18,640
one time he wanted to get out of this

1481
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:20,079
whole topic but he was just

1482
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:21,920
you know after he had after so much time

1483
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,680
being invested in it it's like he

1484
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:25,680
doesn't know how to get out of it now

1485
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:28,400
so he you know he's he's kind of all in

1486
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:29,760
you know he put it all on the table now

1487
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:30,960
and he's kind of riding the wave like a

1488
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,400
lot of these other guys are

1489
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,319
yeah that's the impression that i got

1490
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:36,400
that he that he [\h__\h] up and put

1491
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,280
next week's rent money in the pot and

1492
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:41,200
now he's [\h__\h] and he's gotta [\h__\h]

1493
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:42,720
ride this game out

1494
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:46,160
there's no get one of it now you know

1495
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:48,240
i've heard somebody else think he

1496
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:49,839
probably wishes he could just go back

1497
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:51,680
and do cold war history or something

1498
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:52,640
more

1499
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,480
respectable

1500
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,559
i guess because he he kind of has the

1501
00:56:01,430 --> 00:56:00,480
air of an academic he's intelligent

1502
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:01,440
enough to be

1503
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,760
but there's no uh i guess there's no

1504
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,359
spotlight in that maybe that's what he

1505
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:07,200
likes i don't i don't really know

1506
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,559
well when he was at that conference with

1507
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:10,160
corey goode and he kind of you know he

1508
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:11,359
was sitting there and he basically said

1509
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:12,799
all these other guys are just telling

1510
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:14,000
stories i think he

1511
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,599
he sort of put himself off as like the

1512
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,920
adult in the room of ufology

1513
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:19,119
but like you said when you actually

1514
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,640
start researching more into some of the

1515
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:22,559
stuff that he's brought to the public

1516
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:25,119
it's uh it's some of it's sketchy at

1517
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,599
best

1518
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:27,599
i mean not not very credible at least

1519
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,119
from my standpoint

1520
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:31,599
somebody just called some dolan comes

1521
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:32,720
off as a nerd too

1522
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:35,680
also like jason yeah [\h__\h] jason quit too

1523
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:36,720
[\h__\h] that guy

1524
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:41,200
maple syrup doesn't what's going on with

1525
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:44,720
this japanese show listen there's a

1526
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:46,720
japanese suicide forest and i was gonna

1527
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,440
run with that story like three weeks ago

1528
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:52,640
and then jason quit he messaged me and

1529
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,440
he's like

1530
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,520
i've actually been there and i have some

1531
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:57,520
strange experiences which i can share on

1532
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:58,160
your show

1533
00:57:01,750 --> 00:56:59,760
if you're willing or something like real

1534
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:01,760
like gentlemanly and [\h__\h]

1535
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:04,480
and then i go yeah he starts sending me

1536
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:06,079
pictures and stuff with this japanese

1537
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:07,839
suicide force and he's been there and i

1538
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,319
go

1539
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,480
all right jason i'll put the story off

1540
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,720
and then you'll you know

1541
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:14,720
come on jason quit i gotta get that

1542
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:16,480
story out we're waiting on you

1543
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:20,240
bro [\h__\h] jason quit i really like

1544
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:22,240
i like jason quick i do too i just like

1545
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:24,319
to bust his balls because i held up

1546
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:26,319
jason quit i held up a story for three

1547
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:27,440
weeks now man

1548
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:30,240
i gave every week i go can you can do

1549
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:31,760
you want to do it this night do it

1550
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:34,720
no he had company or he was on vacation

1551
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,559
or something so god bless him he needed

1552
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,640
some time away from this craziness

1553
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,319
he definitely has his hands in a lot of

1554
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,640
uh in a lot of areas when it comes to

1555
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:44,480
you know paranormal

1556
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,559
how the hell does he he gets around all

1557
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,799
this [\h__\h] if there's a ufo conference

1558
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:49,760
he's at it

1559
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,680
if there's a bigfoot sighting he's got

1560
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:53,520
pictures of him near the bigfoot

1561
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,160
sighting

1562
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,559
taking pictures of bigfoot feet like in

1563
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:58,000
the dirt

1564
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,440
well i mean he isn't he is an

1565
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,359
interdimensional traveler so i mean that

1566
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:03,200
transformation

1567
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,839
that could explain a lot with that did

1568
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:07,599
you know that jason quick can hear sign

1569
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:09,040
language

1570
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:12,079
i don't know what that's about jason

1571
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:15,680
counted to infinity twice

1572
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:18,400
hear sign language yeah that's crazy

1573
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,920
quick quick quit say his name three

1574
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:21,359
times after dark and i'll show up in the

1575
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:22,000
live chat

1576
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:23,359
yeah i don't think so i should message

1577
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:24,960
him show up in the live chat tell me why

1578
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:26,720
we're not doing a suicide japanese

1579
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,280
forest

1580
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:29,920
story tonight jason quit oh but he's

1581
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:30,960
always got time

1582
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:34,319
to go on let's just say a radio show

1583
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:35,520
host show

1584
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,880
never turns that guy down but it's okay

1585
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,319
like i said dan you're starting at the

1586
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:42,480
bottom of the [\h__\h] rung of paranormal

1587
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:44,480
shows here we're at the [\h__\h]

1588
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,520
you're in the [\h__\h] bottom you know

1589
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:49,359
but it's okay because i feel like rocky

1590
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:51,760
like i the tiger right you know like

1591
00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:55,520
gotta like rising up so that's right

1592
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:58,079
we're actually doing okay i'm joking

1593
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:58,799
friends

1594
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:01,359
soon okay so can i ask you a i want to

1595
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:02,880
put you on the spot here a little bit

1596
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,640
and hopefully you don't mind me asking

1597
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:06,559
you no we're here to talk to a friend

1598
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,920
tonight so i think that's good and

1599
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,599
that's another thing i use this show as

1600
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:11,680
an excuse to talk to people

1601
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:13,839
that i don't generally you know you

1602
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:15,440
don't have a couple hours to hang out

1603
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:16,640
with your friend

1604
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,750
bro you can ask me anything you want all

1605
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:25,920
right so on the sarah adams

1606
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,240
topic i know you know you brought up

1607
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:30,400
that that you've done a couple sessions

1608
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:31,280
with her

1609
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,880
unfortunately i missed the episode where

1610
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:34,640
you you talk to her manager i have to go

1611
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:35,200
back and

1612
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:38,960
and watch that but um when you when you

1613
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,960
did these sessions with her

1614
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,799
did she actually charge you for those

1615
00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:44,640
sessions or did she do it kind of like

1616
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,640
okay so it was free of charge no this

1617
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,160
was a display

1618
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:51,119
she offered to do a demonstration of her

1619
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:51,839
abilities

1620
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:55,040
for me and uh she said

1621
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:57,839
and and at first i've had people that

1622
01:00:00,789 --> 00:59:59,520
offered to do a demonstration of their

1623
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:00,799
abilities and they wanted me to pay

1624
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:02,720
their usual whatever it is 250

1625
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:05,040
i had somebody ask me for 300 yeah just

1626
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:06,720
send me a paypal for the 300 and then

1627
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:07,920
you could talk about it on your show

1628
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:08,960
they don't care they get to

1629
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:11,359
know she didn't get any money at all and

1630
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:14,079
then additionally

1631
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,880
she did a session now i'm finding this

1632
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:18,000
out

1633
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:19,920
she did a session for a terminally ill

1634
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:21,760
friend of mine i'm not quite sure what's

1635
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:22,640
going on with that

1636
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:24,160
friend of mine but she was supposed to

1637
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,160
do additional sessions with him

1638
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:29,200
also for free he didn't get back to them

1639
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,400
and uh here's the latest on the strange

1640
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:33,920
case of sarah adams and this is good

1641
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:35,440
that you brought it up

1642
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:37,359
i'm ready to interview her whenever she

1643
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:38,799
wants to do it but

1644
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,799
she seems to now want

1645
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:44,319
i'm i'm going to try to wear this as

1646
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,920
carefully as possible to be as fair as

1647
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:47,440
possible to her

1648
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:49,599
i think that she's a little fearful of

1649
01:00:52,870 --> 01:00:51,200
what i'm going to say

1650
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:52,880
but when i interview her i'm going to be

1651
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,240
very respectful and

1652
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:56,000
and we'll have a nice conversation it's

1653
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,760
not going to be combative

1654
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:59,359
because i'm still generally curious

1655
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:00,960
about her and her

1656
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:03,680
parent or alleged abilities and my whole

1657
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:04,720
experience with her

1658
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:07,920
seems like

1659
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:10,079
i she won't get to the interview now

1660
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:10,960
it's like

1661
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:13,920
she wants to now she wants to do uh

1662
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:15,920
sessions for somebody else

1663
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:17,599
because the the other gentleman's not

1664
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,280
getting back to her and and

1665
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:21,359
i didn't ever ask her to do the sessions

1666
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:22,960
for the other guy was supposed to be

1667
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:24,319
like

1668
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:26,319
uh maybe i'll do one show talking about

1669
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,839
my experience with her and then we'll do

1670
01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:29,200
the interview and then it turned into

1671
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:30,400
two shows

1672
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:32,400
interview my manager because he knows a

1673
01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:34,240
lot about me well really that was

1674
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:36,720
that was a mutual idea but now we got to

1675
01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:38,000
get to the interview and just

1676
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,880
wrap it up and hopefully uh she'll get

1677
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:42,160
back to me because i said

1678
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,359
you don't need to do any of that you

1679
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:45,359
have your testimonials because she's

1680
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,319
saying like

1681
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:49,440
everybody that i work on finds it hugely

1682
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:51,200
beneficial so let me work on

1683
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,720
somebody else one of your friends and

1684
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:54,319
i'm kind of like you've already done

1685
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:54,720
that

1686
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:57,839
and you've done me and uh you know

1687
01:02:00,870 --> 01:01:59,680
now we gotta get to the interview the

1688
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:00,880
meat of the thing

1689
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,880
that i guess she originally agreed to we

1690
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:04,640
just have to get the date

1691
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:06,079
and i you know i think that she's a

1692
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:08,000
little spooked and she's posting stuff

1693
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:08,960
like

1694
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:12,400
uh skeptics she posted some stuff on

1695
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:15,280
twitter that somebody's somebody said at

1696
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:16,720
least that it was directed to me that

1697
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:18,720
skeptics are like

1698
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:21,920
uh you know skeptics should spend more

1699
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:22,240
time

1700
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:24,000
embracing spirituality rather than

1701
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:25,440
debunking it because

1702
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:27,520
in truth they're miserable and lost or

1703
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:28,640
you know i don't know if she's talking

1704
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:30,400
about me or somebody

1705
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:33,599
a few people seem to think that she's

1706
01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:36,799
commenting on uh skeptics i don't know

1707
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,200
if that

1708
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:39,520
involves me but we i want to get her

1709
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:40,240
here

1710
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:43,200
that everybody will at least be

1711
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:44,559
respectful to her

1712
01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:46,480
so i hope it still goes off and we

1713
01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:49,119
finish it listen though

1714
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:50,960
at some point i'm going to say i'm going

1715
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:52,480
to finish that

1716
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,160
third part with her without her

1717
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:56,240
participation so

1718
01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:58,799
i'd rather she i'd rather that she

1719
01:03:02,230 --> 01:02:59,680
participate

1720
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:02,240
because don't you feel like i mean if

1721
01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:03,599
you're going to go out into the public

1722
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:04,400
arena

1723
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:06,160
and you're going to charge people 200

1724
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,559
300 sometimes even 800 to a thousand

1725
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:10,079
dollars for these sessions

1726
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,440
don't you kind of feel like it's your

1727
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:13,200
like it's it's your obligation to go out

1728
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:14,559
there and answer questions and kind of

1729
01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:16,079
stand up to some of the scrutiny that

1730
01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:16,960
people are

1731
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:18,400
are putting i mean you're charging

1732
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:20,079
you're charging these people

1733
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:22,240
money for you know these healing

1734
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:23,680
whatever you want to call it

1735
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:25,440
um i mean people have questions and

1736
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:26,640
they're you know there's naturally

1737
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:27,920
curious about it

1738
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,640
and i think you know that's that's how

1739
01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:32,240
you know guys like david wilcock who

1740
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:33,200
have been doing this for

1741
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:36,000
you know 20 years saying saying stuff

1742
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:36,480
that

1743
01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:38,480
has never come true like how does this

1744
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:40,400
guy still have followers after all this

1745
01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:41,119
time

1746
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:44,240
i know i know it's never been verified

1747
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,799
or never

1748
01:03:48,069 --> 01:03:46,559
come to pass or anything like that it

1749
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:48,079
just blows me away how

1750
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:49,359
some people just you know they get

1751
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:50,880
hooked on it and they just for whatever

1752
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:51,760
reason they can't

1753
01:03:57,029 --> 01:03:54,880
they can't get themselves back out of it

1754
01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:57,039
yeah and you know the other issue i

1755
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:59,359
guess is that like

1756
01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:00,960
some people came after me on twitter

1757
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:03,200
saying why don't i investigate

1758
01:04:08,309 --> 01:04:06,240
more famous psychics because she uh

1759
01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:08,319
sarah is not very famous and she's not

1760
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,599
hurting anybody

1761
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:11,760
and uh you know i think the jury's still

1762
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:12,960
out if you're

1763
01:04:16,470 --> 01:04:15,920
doing something and uh you're pretending

1764
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:16,480
instead of

1765
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:18,799
actually doing it and here's the deal

1766
01:04:21,910 --> 01:04:20,880
it's this is a really tough situation

1767
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,920
because

1768
01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:24,000
yeah i can talk to people that have had

1769
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:25,680
sessions with her that love her that

1770
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:26,480
think they

1771
01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:30,720
she changed their lives so

1772
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:32,559
part of me thinks no matter what method

1773
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:34,480
she's using to have that positive effect

1774
01:04:37,109 --> 01:04:35,039
on people

1775
01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:37,119
if they find value in it and they think

1776
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,559
they got their money's worth then maybe

1777
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:40,799
who am i to shoot my map off

1778
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:43,440
but i think there's a lot of gray areas

1779
01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:44,559
there when you're saying you're

1780
01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:47,599
repairing people's dna

1781
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:49,839
you know that's a scientific claim

1782
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:50,960
that's a stretch

1783
01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:53,200
it's a big stretch and and again a lot

1784
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:54,880
of things that she says you just can't

1785
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:55,680
verify

1786
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,720
she's working on your you know chakras

1787
01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:00,000
align

1788
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:03,359
aura

1789
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:04,960
that none of that can be proven or

1790
01:05:08,470 --> 01:05:06,880
disproven so to take

1791
01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:08,480
a couple hundred bucks from somebody to

1792
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:09,920
do these things

1793
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:12,400
i'm still suspect of even though she i

1794
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:13,119
gotta

1795
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:16,319
say this she has got an army of people

1796
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:17,440
with her

1797
01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:20,240
supporting her clients of hers customers

1798
01:05:25,029 --> 01:05:21,200
of hers

1799
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:25,039
so i'm still on a ledge here you know

1800
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:27,200
like am i doing the right thing we're

1801
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:28,240
not

1802
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:31,760
one i mean look at all these people that

1803
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:32,640
you know we

1804
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:34,640
that are that are constantly scrutinized

1805
01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:36,400
you know by yourself or even other

1806
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:38,240
other content creators i mean they have

1807
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:39,760
a troll army

1808
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,680
behind them who will come and try to

1809
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:43,359
wreck your life if you just

1810
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:45,760
disagree with one thing that they yeah i

1811
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:46,720
never knew there was

1812
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:48,960
richard dolan trolls until lately

1813
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:50,799
because that seemed like that got a lot

1814
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:51,760
of uh

1815
01:05:55,510 --> 01:05:53,839
yeah a lot of people get pissed if they

1816
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:55,520
like a person yeah they're going to come

1817
01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:57,440
after you

1818
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:59,359
know what i have to say they're spitting

1819
01:06:02,470 --> 01:06:00,640
i don't think you were spitting venom at

1820
01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:02,480
dolan i think you were just more like

1821
01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:03,760
hey this is some stuff that he's

1822
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:05,520
presented in the past that i have a

1823
01:06:08,549 --> 01:06:07,200
problem with and then you presented you

1824
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,559
know what you felt was

1825
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:10,240
your reasoning and the evidence behind

1826
01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:11,280
that i don't think you were like

1827
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:12,400
necessarily

1828
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:16,079
personally attacking him um and again if

1829
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:18,000
you can't if you can't handle

1830
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:19,599
the criticism yeah you shouldn't be a

1831
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:21,599
publisher you probably shouldn't be in

1832
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:22,079
this

1833
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:25,200
you know yeah yeah and you know

1834
01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:27,440
as far as the the deal with sarah goes

1835
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:29,520
is like you know it's a tough situation

1836
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:30,720
to be in because i don't want to be

1837
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:32,000
nasty or disrespectful

1838
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:33,920
to her but i got to finish the job that

1839
01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:35,119
i started

1840
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:37,200
and present whatever findings i think

1841
01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:40,160
are fair and reasonable and accurate

1842
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:42,319
and so that's i guess what we're going

1843
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,000
to do going on

1844
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:48,720
carrie so very says she can't fix dna i

1845
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:50,079
don't know what she thinks

1846
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:52,559
yeah it's a i guess it depends you know

1847
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:00,069
bg she is hurting the algo of this show

1848
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:03,200
the algorithm maybe she's hurting the

1849
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:04,559
algorithm

1850
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:05,760
yeah it would have been better to finish

1851
01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:11,750
yeah so friends we're gonna table this

1852
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:13,520
stuff about sarah adams because we're

1853
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:14,640
gonna give her still

1854
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:16,480
you know i just messaged her today

1855
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:17,920
saying let's wrap this up

1856
01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:26,230
now let's get let's wrap it up and get

1857
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:26,559
this

1858
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:29,440
done and uh you know she didn't read it

1859
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:31,200
or reply yet

1860
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:33,760
to the best of my knowledge so and again

1861
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:35,440
just a message to sarah adams and her

1862
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:36,559
friends and supporters

1863
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:38,319
i'm not doing anything to be malicious

1864
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:39,760
or nasty it's

1865
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:42,480
pure curiosity and an attempt to get to

1866
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:43,440
the truth

1867
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,240
which no one should blame me for and i

1868
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:48,240
have to also mention that

1869
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:51,520
in in other situations you're right

1870
01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:52,079
there's an

1871
01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:54,240
army of trolls that would come after me

1872
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:56,240
her people have all been very nice

1873
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:57,520
some of them reached out to me

1874
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:59,200
personally messaged me on facebook or

1875
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,720
twitter or emailed me

1876
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:03,119
and said i'll talk to you about my

1877
01:08:05,589 --> 01:08:04,240
experience with sarah it's been

1878
01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,599
overwhelmingly amazing

1879
01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:07,440
she changed my life she helped me do

1880
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:08,960
this she helped me do that

1881
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:11,280
i've got people emailed me that they

1882
01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:12,640
were on drugs and she

1883
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:14,240
did sessions with me and i haven't had

1884
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:15,920
drugs in years

1885
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:17,679
all these different things and then

1886
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:18,880
people are telling me their personal

1887
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:19,679
stories

1888
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,839
so people have to understand that i'm

1889
01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:23,520
still somewhat torn

1890
01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:26,799
about the whole situation with her

1891
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:28,319
well she doesn't really come off as like

1892
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:29,839
i guess your traditional sort of you

1893
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:30,799
know i guess what would you call like

1894
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,359
the

1895
01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:33,199
cosmic con man she doesn't really it

1896
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:34,880
doesn't seem like she tries to push that

1897
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:36,319
angle i mean she does come like i've

1898
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:38,159
seen interviews with her she does come

1899
01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:39,839
off as very genuine and you know she's

1900
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,520
pretty soft-spoken it seems like

1901
01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:43,199
and i mean you know maybe there's

1902
01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:45,759
something to what she's uh

1903
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,799
what she's saying so exactly i'll be

1904
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:50,560
interested to see that that interview if

1905
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:52,319
you know if and when it it

1906
01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:55,440
finally happens yeah you and me both

1907
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:58,400
bg says hypnosis works yeah so friends

1908
01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:00,319
we're going to probably call this uh

1909
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:02,560
we're going to call this an early one or

1910
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,799
a quick one not an early one

1911
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:06,560
i did want to get started a little early

1912
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:07,920
tonight because i have all this other

1913
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:09,279
stuff that i have to try and finish

1914
01:09:11,749 --> 01:09:10,159
tonight

1915
01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:11,759
but i want to thank you dan for doing

1916
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:13,759
this and maybe if i go through those

1917
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:15,040
files again we could do

1918
01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:18,000
a part two but i'm gonna be like jason

1919
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:19,679
quit here and just blow you off for like

1920
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:20,400
a month

1921
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:23,199
at least on doing it okay but i'm gonna

1922
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:24,560
tell you i'm gonna do it

1923
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:27,920
if if there's enough sufficient material

1924
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:29,440
there that we could talk about again

1925
01:09:33,829 --> 01:09:30,719
because i would like that

1926
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:33,839
and you know again this is new to me and

1927
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,000
uh by the way i got a couple of messages

1928
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:37,600
like what are you doing you're gonna be

1929
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,359
a ghost hunter now no i'm not gonna be a

1930
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:41,279
ghost hunter or get into that i just

1931
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:43,679
it's an interest of mine so pardon me

1932
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:44,719
for indulging

1933
01:09:48,070 --> 01:09:47,600
uh you know an interest that i never got

1934
01:09:49,749 --> 01:09:48,080
to really

1935
01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:49,759
pursue with somebody that knows a little

1936
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,520
more about it and could help me do that

1937
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:53,199
and that was why it was fun to do this

1938
01:09:57,669 --> 01:09:54,080
with you

1939
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,679
mr hogan i've i've enjoyed it also

1940
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:59,840
so but if you blow me off for a month

1941
01:10:02,229 --> 01:10:01,199
here in about a month when my kid gets

1942
01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:02,239
here i'm probably gonna have to blow you

1943
01:10:05,990 --> 01:10:03,120
off for about six

1944
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:06,000
months more like the rest of your life

1945
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:06,320
yeah

1946
01:10:13,030 --> 01:10:09,760
a baby for that first two years

1947
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:13,040
yeah you don't yeah six of design says

1948
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:15,600
thanks dan come back again sometime

1949
01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:17,920
dude yeah well this has been uh really

1950
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:19,199
fun i'm glad that we

1951
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,000
could have you as a guest and uh william

1952
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:24,320
pixley says good job dan

1953
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:27,840
thank you yeah there you go so we're

1954
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:28,960
gonna let you go

1955
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:30,480
and then i'm going to just do a really

1956
01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:33,120
quick wrap-up

1957
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,719
without you and uh i will be in touch

1958
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:38,400
about the remaining

1959
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:40,320
i made actually a few of those things

1960
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:41,920
that i got i can't wait to send you just

1961
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:43,679
to see what do you think this says

1962
01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:44,800
i'm not going to tell you i'm going to

1963
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:46,480
do the same thing you did to me he

1964
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:48,239
didn't tell me what it said and i had to

1965
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:49,840
figure it out so i'm going to send him

1966
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:51,280
some clips now and say

1967
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:53,040
here's some other stuff i found and the

1968
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:55,280
source material what do you think right

1969
01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:56,800
that'll be i'll be look i'll be looking

1970
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:58,880
forward to it all right dan

1971
01:11:01,990 --> 01:11:00,800
you have a good night and good luck with

1972
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,000
your new child

1973
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:04,560
yep god bless bro appreciate it have a

1974
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:05,199
good one

1975
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:08,960
all right bye-bye all right friends so

1976
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:11,520
uh listen here's to getting something

1977
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:13,280
off your to-do list

1978
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:16,800
i kept putting mr hogan off

1979
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,679
because i kept kind of picking away at

1980
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:21,840
it little by little i didn't get

1981
01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:24,560
like two days to sit down and do all the

1982
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:25,120
actual

1983
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:27,040
audio editing and work that needed to be

1984
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:28,400
done so

1985
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:31,679
you know it took longer than i wanted to

1986
01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,320
and doesn't

1987
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:34,480
everything worth everything worth doing

1988
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:35,440
i'm noticing

1989
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:38,480
takes longer than you want it to do

1990
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:40,080
but it's still worth doing and you've

1991
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:41,760
got to find the time so i'm glad that i

1992
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,120
did i hope you guys enjoyed this

1993
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:47,760
uh sixth design missed 45 minutes maybe

1994
01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:55,270
yeah and our mind says bye dan good luck

1995
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:56,239
on the newbie

1996
01:12:02,950 --> 01:11:59,760
the new baby cal true says thanks dan

1997
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:02,960
yeah what a good guest right uh

1998
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:04,800
this was fun tonight and i gotta tell

1999
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:06,800
you that sometimes it's not so fun

2000
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:10,000
you know i having this

2001
01:12:14,229 --> 01:12:12,159
issue where like i know that i have

2002
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:14,239
material that i can present but i'm a

2003
01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:15,760
little

2004
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:20,719
um i guess my uh

2005
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,480
my confidence level with some of the

2006
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,320
material that i would like to present

2007
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:26,159
is not where it should be so then i

2008
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:28,080
stress out about each of those things

2009
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:29,440
and go

2010
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,360
and convince myself that it needs more

2011
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:33,440
work needs more work needs more work

2012
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:36,080
but sometimes uh you know perfection

2013
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:37,600
really is the enemy of progress

2014
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,960
sometimes you just have to run with what

2015
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,040
you got for now we can come back to it

2016
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:43,600
if i find more or additional material

2017
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:46,159
so you know that's i guess where we're

2018
01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:46,880
going to be

2019
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:50,159
at i happen to spend most of today

2020
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:51,280
working on

2021
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:54,640
in computer hell uh which is also called

2022
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:54,960
uh

2023
01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:01,199
everything takes forever like i went on

2024
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:02,800
these parts and uh

2025
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:05,120
you know i was so excited to get like

2026
01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:07,360
the shell and casing of this thing done

2027
01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:08,320
and then

2028
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:10,320
uh it came time to put the guts in it

2029
01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:12,960
and all kinds of problems this won't fit

2030
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:13,679
this

2031
01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:17,040
back

2032
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:20,800
it's not working at all this part and so

2033
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:23,120
that's where i've been at and uh but

2034
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:25,360
we've ordered some additional parts

2035
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:28,320
and i am in my glory working on that

2036
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:28,960
thing though

2037
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:32,320
i have to say uh again it's that's

2038
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:35,120
a childhood dream to build my own sort

2039
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:35,440
of

2040
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:40,640
and i mean i've built custom computers

2041
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:42,080
before but

2042
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,360
not like the prototype it's going to be

2043
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:47,440
amazing and i can't wait to show it to

2044
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:48,480
the world

2045
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:51,280
uh but it's going to take again like i

2046
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:52,239
was just saying

2047
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:54,000
the prototype is another one of those

2048
01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:55,760
things it's going to take a lot more

2049
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:56,800
time than i

2050
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:59,120
would would have liked and a lot more

2051
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:00,080
time than i ever thought

2052
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:02,080
it would but it's worth doing i'm gonna

2053
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:04,400
see it through whatever i have to do

2054
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:07,120
i've been uh pretty unstoppable in

2055
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:09,760
smashing barriers to completion

2056
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:12,239
but more keep popping up but this is

2057
01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:13,199
life friends we

2058
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:17,280
grow on we adapt and overcome

2059
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:22,950
six is design oh my friday is around the

2060
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:24,560
corner and we just have a friday like

2061
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:25,600
three days ago

2062
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,600
yeah uh i didn't go to the cabin last

2063
01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:29,760
weekend so my whole

2064
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:33,040
rhythm is gone because it's usually like

2065
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:35,280
do some stuff at the house for the week

2066
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:37,120
go to the cabin get some rest

2067
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:39,600
and and get some recreation time and

2068
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:40,480
then

2069
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:42,400
go back to the house get some work done

2070
01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:43,760
and then go but

2071
01:14:48,790 --> 01:14:47,120
we i didn't not have that down time uh

2072
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:48,800
actually i think we did shows over this

2073
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:50,239
last weekend

2074
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:53,360
um but it is what it is i am

2075
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:57,840
uh i am servicing

2076
01:15:01,430 --> 01:15:00,719
and you know putting my daily worship

2077
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:01,440
into

2078
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:04,960
the almighty algorithm and uh

2079
01:15:07,990 --> 01:15:07,120
you know it's good to do that it's good

2080
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:08,000
that i

2081
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:11,760
water the garden even if i just water it

2082
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:12,800
a little bit

2083
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:15,199
this is this is the time that i have to

2084
01:15:18,070 --> 01:15:16,960
dedicate to this and we have so much

2085
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:18,080
time a day

2086
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:20,239
to do this yeah i'm glad that i got a

2087
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:22,239
chance to do a few extra shows because i

2088
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:24,239
stayed home from the cabin but hopefully

2089
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:25,840
this weekend we're uh

2090
01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:28,480
we're going i'm still not sure about the

2091
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:30,159
state park closures

2092
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:31,600
well the state parks are not closed but

2093
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:33,920
all of the lakes are so

2094
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:36,880
you can go hiking which i may do we'll

2095
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:39,360
see

2096
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:40,880
william pixley says don't forget the

2097
01:15:48,790 --> 01:15:46,310
dan hogan from the big screen to the

2098
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:48,800
live chat welcome dan hogan there you go

2099
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:52,960
nice to see you show up in the live chat

2100
01:15:56,229 --> 01:15:54,880
and uh people dan hogan people are

2101
01:15:58,630 --> 01:15:56,239
asking for your facebook

2102
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:58,640
website or twitter so i guess maybe

2103
01:16:00,950 --> 01:16:00,000
people may want to contact you with

2104
01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:00,960
additional questions

2105
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:02,719
feel free to share that in the live chat

2106
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:04,400
i believe you are a moderator

2107
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:12,550
yeah dan hogan says hey guys hope you

2108
01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:14,080
enjoyed it really enjoyed talking to

2109
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:16,000
steven yeah i enjoyed that dan we got to

2110
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:17,760
do that again or maybe just have you on

2111
01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:18,880
when i need a guest

2112
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:20,880
because people like jason quit won't

2113
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:22,800
return my calls

2114
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:25,120
[\h__\h] jason quit you know what [\h__\h] you

2115
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:27,199
jason quinn i'll get some new guests

2116
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:29,360
we don't need you here actually we

2117
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:30,880
really need him come on jason

2118
01:16:46,830 --> 01:16:43,350
oh yeah here we go is on twitter you

2119
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:46,840
like donald trump the real donald trump

2120
01:16:54,390 --> 01:16:53,590
well friends um i'm not sure what else i

2121
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:54,400
can say

2122
01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:58,239
for today i'm uh

2123
01:17:01,669 --> 01:16:59,840
not sure that my family is coming with

2124
01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:01,679
me to the cabin this weekend

2125
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:05,199
and that means if i go by myself

2126
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,159
i have to uh i have to finish fixing a

2127
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:10,239
basketball court that i

2128
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:12,480
i don't know how i got involved in this

2129
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:14,320
but there's a community basketball court

2130
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:15,920
and nobody had any money and i put some

2131
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:17,679
money in and bought some a little bit of

2132
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,199
materials and then

2133
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:21,440
we really needed this i don't know some

2134
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:23,520
expensive materials to patch up the

2135
01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:24,960
actual

2136
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:28,480
court um and so

2137
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:30,960
the community members got together it

2138
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:32,800
was kind of like i had an excuse

2139
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,679
was like well you know i i bought some

2140
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:37,360
paint and painted the backdrop and

2141
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,719
and i did a few other things and i

2142
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:40,480
cleaned up the weed mess that was all

2143
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:41,040
around

2144
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:42,960
but we need these materials and that's

2145
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:44,960
like 120 or 150

2146
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:46,719
i don't really have the money for that

2147
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:48,000
right now maybe

2148
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,719
i will later so then they got the

2149
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:52,960
materials and we're like here

2150
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:54,560
now there's nothing stopping you from

2151
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:56,320
fixing our basketball court

2152
01:17:59,669 --> 01:17:58,000
so i gotta go do that this weekend but

2153
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,679
other than that i

2154
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:01,199
and and you know what i'm really i'm

2155
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:03,040
thankful to be able to do that because

2156
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:04,400
then i can go shoot hoops again i

2157
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:06,960
haven't done that in a long time i'm 6'4

2158
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:10,000
so yeah i i like to shoot hoops and also

2159
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:11,040
for the kids there

2160
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:13,360
it gives them something to do and uh

2161
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:14,480
maybe

2162
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:16,080
you know uh we're going to do some other

2163
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:18,000
things there

2164
01:18:22,229 --> 01:18:20,000
once this covet crisis is over we can

2165
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:22,239
have uh one-on-one games with the kids

2166
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:22,640
or

2167
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:26,239
but it's a good thing that i have to go

2168
01:18:28,709 --> 01:18:28,000
do that but the good news is other than

2169
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:28,719
that i won't

2170
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,960
i if my family's not there i should be

2171
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:32,159
able to do a couple of shows this

2172
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:33,600
weekend as well

2173
01:18:38,830 --> 01:18:36,800
maybe we'll do another fireside chat um

2174
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:38,840
but i'm a little hesitant because of the

2175
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:41,920
bears bg says enjoy your beer stephen

2176
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:43,280
yes i will

2177
01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:49,510
dan hogan wishes he was related to paul

2178
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:52,840
hogan get some of that crocodile dundee

2179
01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:54,080
money

2180
01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:56,080
is magic you can do everything not

2181
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:57,760
really somehow i

2182
01:19:01,669 --> 01:19:00,000
i do the best that i can now that's all

2183
01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:01,679
we can do is you do the best that you

2184
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:02,480
can

2185
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:04,640
trying to move forward in life i'm glad

2186
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:06,159
that i get to do something like that for

2187
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:07,520
the community though because they really

2188
01:19:11,189 --> 01:19:08,719
need to help and uh

2189
01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:11,199
i'm gonna feel real good when i fix that

2190
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:12,000
thing because i

2191
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:14,080
i'm hopefully that i have some before

2192
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:15,600
pictures because it was a mess

2193
01:19:18,709 --> 01:19:17,280
it was just nobody used it there's big

2194
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:18,719
holes in it the kids it's a

2195
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:20,719
health and safety hazard it's gonna be

2196
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:23,040
all fixed

2197
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:25,120
yes dan hilligan jason quick can come

2198
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:26,320
and play basketball

2199
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:27,520
you know i think we worked it out it's

2200
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:29,360
like a five-hour drive from his house to

2201
01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:30,719
my cabin so

2202
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:33,440
i think his wife likes to visit or maybe

2203
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:34,960
maybe he wanted to visit

2204
01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:38,640
or uh yeah maybe we'll do that

2205
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:40,480
i'll feed him to the bears for not

2206
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:42,239
calling me back about this japanese

2207
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:44,000
suicide forest show

2208
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:47,600
jason quit you might need the extra

2209
01:20:01,510 --> 01:19:59,750
i guess i would say i would like to do

2210
01:20:04,870 --> 01:20:01,520
some shows

2211
01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:04,880
for me staying busy is kind of how i

2212
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:07,040
relax i got like i like to just stay

2213
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:08,960
busy i like to have something to do

2214
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:11,679
so maybe i'll do some shows but i do i i

2215
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:12,960
reserve the right to sit

2216
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:15,199
in front of campfire and drink some

2217
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:16,400
beers and

2218
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:23,990
so friends uh i guess we're going to

2219
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:25,440
wrap things up here

2220
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:26,960
i want to thank my guests tonight dan

2221
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,560
hogan for giving me the opportunity and

2222
01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:30,239
for being a guest tonight to give me the

2223
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:32,719
opportunity to explore this

2224
01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:36,000
strange sort of phenomenon

2225
01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:39,120
right it's been

2226
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:42,960
interesting maybe it's not exactly what

2227
01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:43,199
i

2228
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,400
evps or what

2229
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,760
you know i don't know i didn't i don't

2230
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:51,360
know about my preconceived notions but

2231
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:52,960
i'm glad that we got

2232
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:56,000
that i finally got to do some evp

2233
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:58,880
investigations and see if there's

2234
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,199
something to it as far as my beliefs

2235
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:03,199
about this i think the jury's still out

2236
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:05,600
this is something that i would want to

2237
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:07,679
put a lot more time energy and work into

2238
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:09,040
before deciding if

2239
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:10,960
it's a genuine phenomenon is it really

2240
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:12,960
ghosts or demons or

2241
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:16,880
is there you know a

2242
01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:19,920
more boring explanation for

2243
01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:22,800
why these things show up on tapes but

2244
01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:24,960
i'd sure like to believe

2245
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:28,960
and i think some of you would too

2246
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:31,120
so until next time friends my name is

2247
01:21:54,830 --> 01:21:32,800
stephen cambion

2248
01:22:29,260 --> 01:21:57,200
so

2249
01:23:08,460 --> 01:22:36,840
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